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Space Monkey17 Aug 2011 11:17 p.m. PST

I just got back from seeing this… best time I've had in a movie in quite a while. Good story telling and lots of clever details for the observant… not a lot of crowd-pleasing corn. Exellent CGI protagonist.
I laughed, I cried… I cheered for the gorilla.
Entertaining all the way through.

2bit elroy18 Aug 2011 4:49 a.m. PST

Saw it Monday and enjoyed it very much. It had quite a bit to say.

richarDISNEY18 Aug 2011 8:02 a.m. PST

I went over the weekend.
Not for me.
But then again, I was never a fan of the 'APES' movies, so I really didn't think I'd like it going into it.
beer

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP18 Aug 2011 1:55 p.m. PST

My son really liked it. I thought the previews were interesting, but I didn't really buy the premise, so I haven't gone yet.

Besides, unless the story line in the remake was different, that's not the origin of the Planet of the Apes. Guess Hollywood has given up on nuclear holocaust these days. Bioweaponry is so much sexier.

Space Monkey18 Aug 2011 2:54 p.m. PST

Bioweaponry is so much sexier.
Bioweaponry? I don't recall anyone designing bioweaponry in the movie… the intelligent apes are a side effect of research on an Alzheimer's cure… as is the other thing. (though there's one character who might see the apes' military potential).
Come the end of the movie nuclear war still remains a possibility, depending on how some folks react to what's happening.
Either way the apes are around to watch man do himself in.

Old Contemptibles18 Aug 2011 7:53 p.m. PST

This is a wargaming movie. I know plenty of chimps who play wargames. I will be doing so this Saturday. This is a wargame movie. I have 15mm apes. They have a planet, the play. Keys, they have keys!

Rassilon18 Aug 2011 7:59 p.m. PST

In the original iteration they replaced cats and dogs as pets, and then as their full potential as servants was realized they were transformed into slaves, eventually inundating all levels of society… therefore having enough apes physically in place to be able to effect a real crisis and revolution that could end up with the nuclear solution suggested in the original films…

So… I still want to know where the amount of apes needed to effect such a revolution comes from in this film?

( No I haven't seen the film, but the multitude of trailers don't suggest any more than a hundred or so from a research lab and whatever numbers might come from zoos? )

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Aug 2011 11:10 p.m. PST

I will see it since I am a huge APES fan. However, I agree with Rassilon. I have some questions about where so many apes come from, how they feed and can handle military units. The movie will hopefully provide some plausible answers which the original did.

Thanks,

John

Space Monkey19 Aug 2011 6:35 a.m. PST

@Rassilon,
The setup is different in this one. You're right that it's only a small number of apes.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2011 5:18 p.m. PST

Ah. I misunderstood the previews. I assumed that the "intelligence" serum, which appears to be released by gas canisters, had been somehow weaponized. (Else why make the delivery mechanism an aerosol vector rather than an injection or an oral medicine?)

Rassilon19 Aug 2011 5:29 p.m. PST

@Venusboys3…

I'm fine with spoilers, how is that these apes obtain a position from which to 'rise' against humans? Is it left unanswered with escaped apes so another movie can be made or what?

Thanks…

StarfuryXL519 Aug 2011 6:35 p.m. PST

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The way I see it is that the virus decimates mankind. While there is a small number of apes to begin with, it was shown that the genetic enhancements are passed on to the next generation (Caesar never had any treatment). So the small group of apes will breed and have intelligent children. The intelligent ape population will grow as the human population dies off.

Granted, this is a reboot, but in the original POTA it didn't seem that apes populated the entire planet, just their area of it.

Space Monkey19 Aug 2011 8:43 p.m. PST

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There's a bit in the end credits showing the virus spreading all over the planet. Meanwhile, the apes were successful in escaping into the redwoods. At that point they know mankind is violent and dangerous and they just want to stay away from us.
Their 'rise' is the result of inheritance rather than overt domination.
I think the PSB for the 2nd version of the drug being delivered as a gas had something to do with needing to get overcome the human body's immune system… since the first version was eventually defeated by antibodies. That plot point probably shouldn't be put under too close of a scrutiny.

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