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Prince Alberts Revenge03 Apr 2024 9:58 a.m. PST

I've seen in various pike and shot rulesets that they address "large" cavalry formations. I remember reading of instances (perhaps earlier in the war) where a cavalry formation was deployed in larger formation than normal (I think normally mounted arqbusiers).

Does anyone know of actual instances in battles where this phenomenon occurred? I plan on modelling some large bases of cavalry and curious which battles would make appropriate scenarios. Thank you for any information in advance.

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Apr 2024 11:22 a.m. PST

To be able to answer that I'd need to ask – how large is 'large' ?

3-rank & 6 rank formations are both fairly common throughout the war but some reiters using caracole tactics early in the war were probably deeper.

thestoats03 Apr 2024 9:27 p.m. PST

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Here's a link to a previous discussion about cavalry formation depths in the Thirty Years' War (thanks for the info Daniel S)

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Daniel S also contributes here too and this post provides more context as to what the "Dutch" formation was

Prince Alberts Revenge04 Apr 2024 8:21 a.m. PST

Thanks, I was searching for some information from Daniel S insights but my querying wasn't getting me what I was looking for. Those links are very helpful.

Perhaps my recollection was from a writer just referencing an imperial harqbusier formation as being deployed in deep ranks and I interpreted that as a special occurrence for the particular battle/commander (not sure why I thought it was Pappenheim or Piccomolini) as opposed to being the norm for the doctrine of the belligerent.

I will put together a few of the "large" base units of harqbusiers for Spanish/Imperial forces and just use them when I see appropriate. Huge blocks of cavalry are just too tempting not to deploy on the tabletop.

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