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Mark J Wilson Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2024 4:12 a.m. PST

Charles kept a Corp off the field at Wagram. I suspect this was to prevent the French crossing the Danube into his rear during the battle. Does anyone have details of French forces on the west bank that could have done so.

Prince of Essling19 Mar 2024 5:03 a.m. PST

@Mark,

Answer to your question is Marshal Lefebvre's VII Corps d'Armee (Bavarian) was stationed north & west of Vienna & opposite Reuss's V Armeekkorps.

In addition General Vandamme's VIII Corps d'Armee (Wurtemberg) was stationed in Vienna – aimed at keeping order.

Lefebvre's OoB

1st division GL Ludwig Karl August
Brigade Rechberg:
1st Light battalion Habermann 653 men
Leib- Regiment (2 battalions) 1,280 men
2nd Line Infantry Regiment Prince Royal (2 battalions) 1,268 men
Brigade Stengel:
4th Line Infantry Regiment Salern (2 battalions) 1,148 men
8th Line Infantry Regiment Duc Pius (2 battalions) 1,311 men
3rd Light battalion 219 men
Cavalry Brigade Vieregg:
Dragoon Regiment Minuzzi (4 squadrons) 236 men
Chevalulegers Prince Royal (with Marulaz
Bubenhoven Chevfaulegers (4 squadrons) 335 men
Artillery:
3 x 6pdr foot artillery (each with 4 x 6pdr cannon & 2 x howitzers)
1 x 6pdr horse artillery battery (detached to marulaz)
3rd Division – GL von Deroi
Brigade Siebein:
5th Light battalion Buittler 462 men
9th Line inf Regt (2 battns) 1,418 men
10th Line Inf Rgt (2 battns) 844 men
Brigade Vincenti:
5th line Inf Rgt (2 battans) 1,286 men
14th Line Inf Rgt (2 batns) 1,333 men
7th Light battalion Gunter 470 men
Cavalry Brigade Seydewitz:
Taxis Dragoons (4 squadrons) 425 men
Artillery:
3 x 6pdr foot artillery (each with 4 x 6pdr cannon & 2 x howitzers)
1 x 6pdr horse artillery battery (detached to marulaz)
Reserve artillery Colonel de Calonge
3 x 12pdr foot artillery batteries (each consisting of 4 x 12pdr cannon 2 x howitzers)

VIII CCorps d'Armee
Infantry Division – GL Baron von Neubronn
Brigade Franquemont:
Inf Regt Prince Royal (2 battans) approx 1,080 men
Inf Regt Duc Wilhelm (2 battns) approx 1,080 men
1st battalion Fusilier Regt Neubronn approx 540 men
Brigade Scharfenstein:
Inf Regt Phull (2 battns) approx 1,080 men
Inf Regt Camerer (2 battns) approx 1,080 men
Fusilier Rgt Neubronn 2nd batn approx 540 men
Light Brigade Hugel:
Jager batn KOnig approx 540 men
Jager batn Neuffer as above
1st Light Batn Wolff as above
2nd Light Batn Brusselle as above
Caval;ry Division GL Freiherr von Wollwarth
Brigade Roeder:
Konig Chevaulegers (4 sqds) 543 men
Konig Jager zu Pferde (4 sqns) 528 men
Brigade Stettner:
Duke Henry Chevaulegers (4 sqds) 533 men
Duke Louis Chevaulegers (4 sqns) 526 men
Reserve artillery – colonel Schadow
1 foot company of 8 x 6pdr guns & 2 x 7pdr howitzers
2 horse artillery batteries – each of 4 x 6pdr cannonm & 2 x 7pdr howitzers.
Attached French artillery:
2 x 12 pdr foot artillery batteries each of 6 x 12 pdr cannon & 2 x howitzers
1 sapper company (85 men)

All above taken from Scotty Bowden's book – will see what John H. Gill has to say on this later.

Mark J Wilson Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2024 9:20 a.m. PST

@ Essling

Many thanks, that's more than enough information for a few scenarios and if I ever get well enough, an excuse to paint some Bavarians.

Prince of Essling19 Mar 2024 3:29 p.m. PST

John H. Gill has the following (and I would go withis listing):
Vienna garrison – GD Andreossy
Nassau 2nd Rheinbund Regiment (2 battalions) 1,502 men
Wurttemberg Leib Chevalegers (2 squadrons) 269 men
two other squadrons (255 men ) detached in scattered locations.

Other:
Wiener Neustadt: 6th Hussars (4 sqns) 515 men
Bruck an der Mur: 18th Leger (2 batns) 974 men

Between Melk & Vienna
VIII Corps d'Armee GD Vandamme
Cavalry Division – GL Wollarth
Brigade GM Stettner
Konig Jager-zu-Pferd (4sqns) 423 men
Herzog Louis Jager-zu-Pferd (4 sqns) 353 men
Infantry Division:
Brigade GM Franquemont
KronPrinz Infantry Regiment (2 batns) 1,230 men
Herzog Wilhelm Inf Rgt (2 batns) 1,279 men
Brigade Scharffenstein
Phull Inf Rgt (2 batns) 980 men
Herzog Wilhelm Inf Rgt (2 batns) 1,141 men
Light Brigade GM Hugel
Jager Battalion Konig 600 men
Jager Battalion von Neuffer 529 men
1st Light Battalion von olff 574 men
2nd Light Battalion von Brusselle 610 men
Artillery:
Fooy battery (8 x 6pdr cannon)
2 horse artillery batteries (each with 4 x 6 pdr cannon & 2 howitzers)
Note: significant numbers detached – Konig (105 men), Herzog Louis (173 men) & Phull (223 men).

Linz – VII Corps d'Armee Marshal Lefebvre
1st Division GL Kronpronz Ludwig
1st Brigade GM Rechberg
1st Infantry Rgt Leib (2 batns) 1,307 men
2nd Inf Rgt Kronprinz (2 batns) 1,210 men
1st Light Battalion 664 men
2nd Brigade GM Stengel
4th Inf Rgt (2 batns) 1,212 men
8th Inf Rgt Herzog Pius (2 batns) 1,165 men
2rd Light Battalion (2 companies) 242 men
cavalry Brigade
1st dragoons (2 sqn) 2445 men
1st Chevaulegers (4 sqn) 399 men
4th Chevaulegers (4 sqn) 429 men
Artillery:
4 x12pdr cannon, 8 x 6pdr cannon & 12 x howitzers

Note Wrede's 2nd Divsion joined napoleon by the morning of 6th July 1809.

There were other troops at Pressburg & garrisoning Raab.

21eRegt26 Mar 2024 7:39 a.m. PST

That has the makings of a real interesting "what if."

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Mar 2024 5:20 a.m. PST

John Gill's book "With Eagles to Glory" is a detailed look at all of Napoleon's German allies during the 1809 campaign. A lot of those allies were not at Wagram and were off guarding flanks and such. Gill goes into a LOT of detail of exactly what those forces were doing.

Prince of Essling27 Mar 2024 10:23 a.m. PST

Agree Gill's books are excellent – "With Eagles to Glory", the 1809 trilogy "Thunder on the Danube" & the standalone "Znaim". All are a must for the library if interested in the 1809 campaign. They are very well footnoted allowing cross-checking & follow up. My only minor criticism concerns the maps as personally in some cases I would have liked larger versions (but that may be me after having viewed so many maps produced in the 1800s/early 1900s).

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