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CHRIS DODSON01 Mar 2024 2:47 p.m. PST

The Battle of Aspern Essling 21/22 May 1809


I have been thinking of refighting this battle ever since Wolfgang Meyer commenced his fabulous Danube river crossing diorama following Francesco's Franznap challenge back in 2017.

Mr Crynns provided some fascinating research but Ligny was under way with Quatre Bras being prepared.

Antietam beckoned but now I am researching this fascinating encounter that for violence and numbers involved is the equal of Gettysburg, as an example.

The research is more challenging as the Library of Congress with its wonderful sources for Antietam is of no use for this event.

However, I firstly wanted to test the viability of constructing the armies involved and the biggest initial challenge is to ascertain what the Kaiserliche-Konigliche Heer and in particular the Austrian campaign Army of 1809 actually looked like.

The usual wargame pictures generally show the Austrians in their best whites following recent successes in the Daz white detergent challenge.

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These beautiful fellows are an excellent example whilst these other guys look more the part, except that all but three German regiments numbers 54/30/15 ( to my understanding) did not wear the shako at this battle.

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This representation is nonsense, white is a totally impractical colour, as anyone who has worn a white shirt to an event will testify. It literally attracts food and drink stains, never mind the prospect of sleeping on the ground in it.

Mr Rawkins in his excellent book The Austrian Hungarian Army 1792-1814s states that the official colour was pearl white.

However, a visit to the Austrian Army Museum web site (Heeresgeschichtliches Museum) has some fantastic examples of the actual uniforms and whilst allowing for artificial light, the colour to my mind has a beige tinge. Unbleached wool is a similar colour which got me thinking.

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Further investigation on the net and a wonderful suggestion by a knowledgeable ‘Von Winterfeld' on the TMP site, of ivory, gave me the answer I was seeking.

The net painting suggestion I discovered was to use brilliant white and then an umber ink wash which highlights the details whilst toning down the white. My idea was to mix a little yellow into the white to create ivory and then use the umber wash. This gives the army museum colour and allows the webbing to stand out when painted white.

Furthermore this re enactment group adds to my conviction regarding Austrian ‘white'.

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Many modellers highlight the straps in black which whilst visually effective is time consuming and, wrong. The soldiers apparently used chalk to clean their kit. The mess when it rained must have been appalling.

My experiments have led me to conclude that the ivory white, when inked will be for the rank and file whilst the purer white, when inked will be good for officers .

This represents the potentially better quality cloth that the officers would be able to afford.

I have commenced constructing my first Austrian Infantry regiment at a ratio of 1 figure equals twenty five. The original regiment consisted of three battalions and I initially thought that re creating that structure would involve three times more officers etc and make for an awkward war gaming unit. Furthermore, this was a large unit the smaller ones would look very messy if broken down in a similar way.

However, tactically it makes sense and battalions of approximately forty troops plus commands fits in quite well with the orders of battle.

The HAT marching figures are very useful but the bayonets are awful and need re trimming. The ammunition pouch is a monster although Hat have recently provided some evidence for their decision. (The flap makes the box look bigger than it is in reality). There is a lump on the left hand side of some by the water bottle that under normal circumstances might require medical treatment. The ‘action' ( inaction by my reckoning ) range has a re loading figure that literally has to be carved up to represent a decent figure with the attention chap not following the box description. Not good, but the helmets are nice and the variety offered by the marching fellows is most useful.

My stock has also suffered from extensive moulding flash which has to be carved off along with the usual problems caused by their choice of plastic. However an overnight dip in vinegar as a cleaning agent followed by a detergent wash seems to help paint adhesion a little.

This first unit was meant to be Infantry Regiment IR 36 Kolowrat with a facing colour of red. Again an interesting subject as the Perry painting guide states mauve!

However, Mr Rawkins referenced his colours through the Army museum so I proceeded with red. However, a question posed by me on TMP opened a flood of contradictory, but fascinating evidence and historical material. Excellent stuff especially when you consider the damage to archives etc during the war.

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The Austrians had all sorts of facing colour names, crab red, lobster red etc but at our scale I am happy with an approximation of the colour. It is the ‘look' of the thing that I am trying to re create after all.

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Nevertheless, IR 36 Kolowrat will be mauve and this bunch of fine fellows is now IR 35 Argenteau with the splendid Oberst von Giessenburg in command.


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Lots to learn and lots to do.

Happy Modelling.

Chris

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2024 9:29 p.m. PST

Those look very nice!

Jim

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2024 2:53 a.m. PST

Fabulous. I appreciate not only the quality of your work, but also that of your research.

Tom

Mark J Wilson Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2024 3:49 a.m. PST

I'd suggest that the exact shade of white would have varied form uniform to uniform dependant on source and age and previous environmental exposure, so if you want to be real paint pedant you should mix multiple small batches of different variations and paint a few bits at a time, or you could be more practical for wargaming purposes and pick a whitish shade and paint the lot; which appear to eb what you have done. Your figures look better than my 1809 Austrians and I've been playing with them for years without any problems.

CHRIS DODSON02 Mar 2024 8:55 a.m. PST

Thank you to everyone for their kind comments.

The TMP members have been and I am sure will continue to be, a source of information as I progress this project to the re fight in the future.

I am especially grateful to Von Winterfeld for his suggestions and must save special praise for The Prince of Essling, ( how appropriate) for his kindness for giving his time and knowledge to help me.

Best wishes,

Chris

von Winterfeldt02 Mar 2024 9:05 a.m. PST

Here are my versions, I predominantly use ivory – for belts a colder white a cold light grey

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CHRIS DODSON02 Mar 2024 9:32 a.m. PST

Hello Von W.

They look absolutely splendid.

Tremendous painting skill and the faces are lovely.

Thank you again for the ivory tip.

Best wishes,

Chris

Levi the Ox02 Mar 2024 10:21 p.m. PST

A very interesting look at the "white" uniforms, and a timely one for me to read as I have a detachment of 59. IR 'Jordis' planned to face the 26eme Legere at the Ebelsberg Chateau.
Your museum photos and lovely painted examples have convinced me to do the uniform in ivory with the belts standing out in white.

Thank you for sharing!

von Winterfeldt03 Mar 2024 3:30 a.m. PST

in case the ivory is too bright, I add "bone" and also unbleached wool, Mohave White from Scale 75 is also a good basic hue for white coats, then one can highlight with ivory.

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP04 Mar 2024 10:05 a.m. PST

Guys, great work and research, I'll go get the paint remover and start over. Really some outstanding brush work!

CHRIS DODSON06 Mar 2024 9:15 a.m. PST

The Battle of Aspern Essling 21/22 May 1809 Part two

Aspern church.

One of the principal buildings of the battle is the Baroque church of Aspern, built in 1671.

There are various models available of this building and indeed my very good friend Thomas Mischak offered to buy me a printed version which was, as always, a very generous thing to do. He is a lovely fellow.

However, I have to consider the foot print of my built up areas and a true 20mm would be huge and a 15mm would look strange with the troops deployed.

References to the church seem to be distorted with time but have found lots of pictures of the ‘original' structure.

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Interestingly, these two pictures seem to be the same but with different characters in the scene.

Pictures of the battle are also of interest as the blazing buildings show parts of the other elements of the structure. Our various artists have visualised a veritable fortress in some of these scenes despite the French not bothering to build defensive structures as they thought they were going to advance towards the Marchfeld area north of Aspern.

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I used Google Earth to look at the modern church but it is much bigger than the original having had additional building work.

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Various modellers have created some super models with varying accuracy and detail.

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The Eastern side is well represented in the paintings as is the North. The South, main entrance side is my interpretation as is the West using other modellers ideas as a source. I think it looks the part which is the main objective. Mr Bibbly Bob is a superb craftsman in my opinion.

Based on this research I drew a sketch map of the frontage with some dimensions to try and represent the proportions of the structure. This was a little larger than planned but anything smaller was going to look strange against the troops defending it. Doors for instance are a given if our troops want to enter the building.

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Then, using cardboard I commenced construction of the tower and the basic shell.

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I would advocate using balsa as it avoids the filling in business. We live and learn!

Stone window frames were constructed from card and balsa

The windows were then filled in with paper, and balsa was used to create the exterior window frames.

A covering of decorators caulk was then used to create the plaster finish of the original.

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The bell tower shuttering is railway fencing and the bell is moulded greenstuff hung by picture wire.

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Commercially obtained windows were then fitted, whereupon, using balsa strips to represent the stone corners the edifice was put together.

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The positioning of the tower within the roof presented a challenge as I wanted a detachable roof in order to use my burner trays. However, it was too difficult as the tower was damaged by its extraction so I reluctantly glued it into place.

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The ornate baroque fittings were moulded from greenstuff and the doors, made of balsa were fitted with card/ wire hinges and wire handles before fitting.

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The tower steeple was fun, as although I made a template and the base section worked a treat , the top element would not square to fit.

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Eventually I won!

Researching the crosses was interesting and I found this wonderful site which was most useful. His series on the 1809 campaign is fantastic.

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The paintings show a double cross and here is an example from this site.

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I used two of Der Feldmarschall's pins, wound picture wire around them, pulled it tight and glued the two cross sections into place. Small balls of greenstuff were then attached before mounting on the model.

Most versions of the church roof I have seen have its colour as slate grey.However, it should be noted that red tiles when weathered and mossed over look grey.

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I did a little research into Austrian Baroque church roofs and those that were not copper or lead seemed to have red tiles. There were two brick factories in the area and it seems to me that roofing slates in red would seem more likely. The original pictures show a dark roof and a reddish roof, and this along with this fine specimen are enough evidence for me.

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The chapel was similarly constructed and will be walled in as per the original.

This wonderful Austrian map from 1820 shows the position of the church, the chapel and its walling. How fantastic is that?

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Lots to do.

Chris

John the Red06 Mar 2024 11:03 a.m. PST

Great work and research, thank you for sharing. Look forward to more pics on your project. 1809 in 1/72nd is something in my project pipeline, as inspiration to crack on

the new HaT Hungarian infantry will be helpful, if they turn up this year !

cheers

von Winterfeldt06 Mar 2024 12:23 p.m. PST

stunning research and realisation

CHRIS DODSON06 Mar 2024 12:43 p.m. PST

Thank you for your kind comments gentlemen.

The forum members help has been very useful indeed.

Lots to do.

Chris

Erzherzog Johann07 Mar 2024 12:35 a.m. PST

Fantastic work. I love the Aspern church.

"all but three German regiments numbers 54/30/15 ( to my understanding) did not wear the shako at this battle."

These are three regiments for which there is some evidence of the shako. It is possible that they were not the only ones, but certainly the vast majority still worry the helmet, so it's probably safer to err on the side of caution. There are some other shako wearers of course, like the EHKL.

Cheers,
John

CHRIS DODSON12 Mar 2024 3:17 a.m. PST

Essling Schuttkasten


The granary building at Essling is very famous and several manufacturers have produced this construction in varying scales. I considering getting one but they are truly massive and would fill my battlefield.

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Interestingly some have different features, although archival proof of the original construction seems difficult to locate. Indeed the roof when viewed from Google Earth seems to have lost some of the sky lights!

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One example is the door on the south side being shown on the right when it is clearly according to the real thing, on the left. The number of sky lights seems to vary too.

Ground scale is important but my view is that as long as the overall ‘footprint' of a built up area is representative then iconic buildings that exceed their true scale dimensions can be included, as it gives the ‘feel' of the place.

Having said that, the original edifice is truly monumental, and a ‘fly' around it via Google Earth is most rewarding.

I have been unable to ascertain its actual construction date but it is built solidly and has an exact purpose, to store the fruits of the Marchfeld grain harvest.

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Closer examination of the deteriorating facade shows brickwork although most commentators state that its construction is of solid stone of one to two metres thickness! Contemporary accounts speak of its virtual impregnability to shot and shell making it, despite its small garrison ( approximately 500 elite grenadier and Carabinier souls) , a small fortress. I personally would have thought the roof to be less armour plated as it is tiled.

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The actual tactical value I would suggest is that it helped funnel and restrict assaults on the village proper.

I wanted the building to look as much like the original without turning the battlefield into downtown Manhattan. This meant getting the many doors and windows in, whilst retaining the approximate look in both length and breadth.

A bit of sketching on a piece of folded paper gave me a ball park idea and I settled on 19cm x 8cm. The problem lies with the height. The doors are a given and this unfortunately creates a more box like structure as I can not compress the height to keep the proportions. To do this would entail a structure at least 30cm long. My very good friend Thomas Mischak ( head of the German research department) pointed this out but unfortunately unless I omitt Aspern completely I have to compromise. I am hoping that trees and photographic perspective may help to ‘lengthen' it.

These dimensions were transferred to balsa wood and the details measured, marked and cut out. Thin balsa for the window frames then followed along with paper strips for the levels visible on the original. I noted that the top one is pronounced as it is used ( like my Dunker church model at Antietam ) to divert rainwater away from the walls.

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Once the frames were in place I gave the various sections a layer of decorators caulk to represent the plaster. I also scribed in the corner stonework making sure to align the symmetry with each section.

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I built a framework for the first and second floors as I which to place the garrison inside eventually.

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The doors are covered with iron and I represented this by using a covering of aluminium foil on a balsa door. Unravelled picture wire was then bent to shape and glued in place to provide the feature decoration and furniture seen in the picture. It appears that the hinges are on the interior from the pictures which would explain the difficulty in accessing by the Austrian sappers. The weakest point of a door is generally its hinged side.

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The original seems to be quite intricate but I stuck to the present day model as my wire work skills are not that good.

The windows were also iron and once again my unravelled picture wire trick in creating a lattice effect was most useful in creating the look of these widows. The wires are laid on a glue base around the window edges to form the mesh.

Wills roofing sheets provided the roof and then I added the various vents using balsa along with the top door which had a hoist above it. I was going to model the hoist but was not sure where the rope would go ( normally I would have thought tied to the lower level) so left it.

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Light changes the colouring when viewing the pictures of the building, but in order to get a contrast with the white highlights, I mixed up a light beige with some yellow which I think looks the part.

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The roof colour is a constant source of discussion. I am of the opinion that it is brick red, like the Granary museum model inside the actual building ,but heavily weathered giving a grey appearance to the modern day viewer.

There seems to be doubt in some blog spots as to whether the iconic sundial was present in 1809. The date on the bottom of the mural, suggests that it was done/ refreshed in 1991.

Certainly, it is a nice feature although time keeping was normally done by the church bell, located slightly south of the Granary. I would love to have it but my feeling, having looked at the Essling diorama where it is absent, is that, it is indeed a later addition .

Any contemporary information to the contrary would be welcome.

There is also conjecture on the arched door present on the building as to whether it existed at the time. I decided to sit on the fence and just have a normal door. After all it was built as a functional structure, unlike the churches as an example.

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The merciless camera has shown some imperfections and the weathering has highlighted some lumps which need sorting but overall I am quite pleased with the model.

Lots to do.

Chris

CHRIS DODSON18 Mar 2024 4:09 a.m. PST

Austrian artillery.

I have commenced painting the Austrian artillery gunners for the project.

These are Art Miniturian and 3D prints from a very nice gentleman supplier Mr Kane.

They are both very nice but the quality of detail on the 3D prints together with their poses are exceptional. The material used is much stronger than other prints I have bought although care has to be taken with the sponges and any flimsy bits.

They paint up very well and come with a selection of cannons/ howitzers.

The Austrian foot artillery comprised both gunners and assistants ( with blue facings) which I will be including as I progress the project.

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The Zvezda Guard artillery gentlemen look promising for conversions to add more variety and I shall see what I can do.

Lots to do.

Chris

Prince of Essling18 Mar 2024 5:28 a.m. PST

@Chris,
Excellent work. Will be watching progress with great interest.
Good luck
Ian

CHRIS DODSON18 Mar 2024 6:36 a.m. PST

Thank you Ian.

You are very kind.

Best wishes,

Chris

CHRIS DODSON10 Apr 2024 7:45 a.m. PST

Austrian villages in the Vienna area.

I have been researching the types of architecture and village planning that are relevant to my project.

I have been very fortunate to have been able to draw upon the excellent research done some years ago by the genius known as Mr Crynns from Holland.

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His forensic observations and pictures have been very useful indeed. Further Google Earth investigations of old buildings in Aspern and Essling have been most interesting.

However, I came across the extensively researched works of the 1809 blog ( Supreme Littleness) , a French blog with nice period ( but unfortunately inaccurate) model buildings and also an excellent reference source in the form of a Thomas Brandsletter.

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Many thanks to Mr Supreme Littleness for his extensive and useful research on his wonderful 10mm project.

Thomas's blog, describing Austrian village designs of the period together with a superb knowledge of house types and their construction etc is a delight.

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Furthermore, the illustrations of villages of the time give an insightful glimpse of what I am looking to achieve along with contemporary maps of the villages.

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The layouts with the barns to the rear is most informative together with the predominance of gable ends facing the road . This all fits in with the period maps of the villages.

Thomas has very kindly assisted me in my personal enquires about the area and I am very grateful. Examples include the general absence of window shutters and also windmills, as most milling was done by water mills based on the Danube and March rivers.

Unfortunately the Austrian Buildings open air museum at Stubing and Rein Abbey has only one building from this part of Austria , but ,it is non the less, an excellent example of a Dreikanter edifice. Wonderful stuff indeed.

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Another of Thomas's links takes us to this fantastic site.

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This is a genuine gem for anyone wanting to understand the layout and architectural style of the area.

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There are many representations of the villages of Aspern and Essling but the best one I have seen has to be the following, I believe by Mr Supreme Littleness himself.

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This is an excellent interpretation, especially for war gaming purposes. However, there is a preponderance of tiled roofs, rather than thatch and the gables do not face the road. Nevertheless, it's inspirational in my opinion and no timbered houses in sight, marvellous.

Whilst space considerations in my scale of 20mm mean that an exact copy of these villages is impractical I do want to get the feel of the place so that a local of the time would feel fairly at home.

I found this period picture taken towards the later end of the century, of a local Austrian village of the area which I thought was very interesting.

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To this end I have commenced construction of various buildings. I want to get a homogenous look based on the period paintings. The ‘white wash' look is more of an off white and I have found that household emulsion ‘ Timeless' is a good for my purpose.

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The merciless camera has shown up some discrepancies with the builds but overall I think I am moving in the right direction.

Whilst tiles and wooden shingles were in use, especially on the bigger buildings and churches, thatch it seems was a major roofing material. With the local availability of reeds etc this makes sense and will be reflected in the build. This also ties in with contempory accounts of buildings going up in flames.

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Lots to do.

Chris

CHRIS DODSON17 Apr 2024 10:37 a.m. PST

Infantry Regiment No. 10

(Anton Mittrowsky)

I have been having all sorts of fun looking though the various orders of battle to see which units were present at the action.

The main problem is that units present at Aspern may not have been in action. A good example being the 1/2 French Carabineers. Most sources, Bowden, Nafziger, Gill, ‘Obscure Battles' have them present at Aspern.

However, Mr Gill states that they along with most of the 2/9 Cuirassiers were prevented from crossing the Danube by the failing bridge.

I have researched this extensively and am grateful, once again to ‘The Prince of Essling' who pored through many sources which unfortunately were inconclusive.

Mr Gill has Infantry Regiment No.10 in Brigade Wintzingerode along with the 2nd Jäger battalion, where as Bowden states they were brigaded with IR.42.

Confusing or what?

I think Mr Gill is very good at his subject matter and am therefore using his returns as my primary source.

IR 10 was comprised of two battalions as the third was in Bohemia at the time.


So, here they are with Oberst Von Lowenwarth proudly leading his men, a mixture of Mr Kane's superb sculpts, Hat marching fellows and some conversions.

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Lots to do.

Chris

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