"DoW Player: How do you use your Gnoblar?" Topic

Having only the Special one, how do you use it?

Being cheaper than a pikeman, do you employ them as cannon fodder, to absorb your opponent's attacks or whittle away his minis in close combat by dint of numbers?

or

Do you use them as a glorified flank guard or holding unit?

???

Well of course I only have the one, and *I* think it's Special, but it's my Gnoblar (I didn't know anyone else called it that, actually), and it's not really any of your business how I use it.

What on earth are you going on about? DoW?

Allen

It's a reference to a troop type in Warhammer Fantasy. Gnoblars are shorter than Goblins, but taller than Snotlings and DoW = Dogs of War. My mistake, I forgot to mention Manbiter, the name of the troop type, in the title. I suppose that could have raised more questions.

It would sound rather racy to any non-Warhammer players who read it! 8)=

True. I suppose one could blame GW for coming up with weird sounding names for troop types. Then again, the fault lies with the creator of this post in trying to come up with a creative thread title. At least my other thread has an OK alliterative title.

"My mistake, I forgot to mention Manbiter, the name of the troop type, in the title. I suppose that could have raised more questions."

(blink)

(blink)

Oh, surely not.

Allen

LOL Allen!

I take it no one here plays with Gnoblars – I really don't want to go there – or is a DoW collector with a Manbiter unit in his WFB force? Could I have aliented the Warhammer Fantasy community by my recent criticism of White Dwarf?

"Could I have aliented the Warhammer Fantasy community by my recent criticism of White Dwarf?"

Nah. Weekends are traditionally slowish. People are doing the chores they've put off all week, and some people only manage to log on from work.

A friend claims he is going to build a gnobler army. Hasn't done it yet, though. I have not yet fielded my ogres.

I am, BTW, resisting an impulse to add to the silliness. The title, the name of the mini, the 'race', everything just cries out for more of the Allen treatment.

I suppose I'll give this thread a few more days, before letting it sink into obscurity. The reason I'd started this topic as I'm considering buying a couple of boxes of Gnoblars to make an 80+ Manbiter unit in a DoW force – the Special reference is the 0-1 slot they take up in a Dogs of War army. I intend them to be cannon fodder in mass.

Considering the cost of the basic troops, bulding a serious GNoblar army is an expensive and time-consuming proposition. I'm even daunted by fielding them in Warband games, because you *still* need two boxes of the little knee-biters to get unit minimums…

I gather you plan to count all of them as Man-biters despite visible equipment? Man-Biters are normally a little better (or more interestingly) equipped.

OK. I thought I should go educate myself on the subject, instead of just playing smartass. Found the little s in the GW online stores: kinda cute. Pretty desperate cost ($$) per point ratio. Then found what people were writing about them and simply gave up:

"i dont want any gnoblars at the moment cause i just dont fell like painting them i got 1000 points of goblins to paint"

"I am Ogre too but I dont have much expierence with them so i cant really give good advice"

Right now, I am feeling the desperate need to find a 28mm grammarian…

Allen

Considering the cost of the basic troops, bulding a serious GNoblar army is an expensive and time-consuming proposition. I'm even daunted by fielding them in Warband games, because you *still* need two boxes of the little knee-biters to get unit minimums…

Unless I'm mistaken, the standard box of 20 fulfills the minimum unit size requirement. But I would never field 20 as they'd fall easily on account of their pathetic stats. Indeed building such an army is a daunting task, which is why I'm not taking that route. Goblins or Skaven would make a better horde army and with "superior" stats. I just need the single unit for a Dogs of War force.

I gather you plan to count all of them as Man-biters despite visible equipment? Man-Biters are normally a little better (or more interestingly) equipped.

You're correct on your assumption, they'll just be Manbiters – their stats are acceptable to me. I intend on taking all the options for this unit(shields, musician, Ogrebiter and standardbearer) along with an Ogrehead standard. I have plenty of bits and pieces leftover form other projects, so cobbling together some flails shouldn't be that difficult a task. As they'll have shields, I'll arrange the front rank to look like a phalanx; those in the second or third ranks will have the flails – of course the whole unit counts as having flails.

OK. I thought I should go educate myself on the subject, instead of just playing smartass.

This is a funny topic. A hundred and seventy-eight hits and not much in the way of substance – kind of like Cds put out by studios.

Found the little s in the GW online stores: kinda cute.

Cute?!? I don't buy cute – it's not in my everyday vocabulary. Just typing the word makes me feel weird, so I'll just use the first letter of that adjective. If you think these are c—-, then Gremlins(when they're fed after midnight) are c—-. These are supposed to be mean little critters(according to their background), like pack rats.

Pretty desperate cost ($$) per point ratio.

That's why I intend on buying through eBay and hopefully from stores that are liquidating their GW stock – these end up going for 50% the RRP.

Then found what people were writing about them and simply gave up:

"i dont want any gnoblars at the moment cause i just dont fell like painting them i got 1000 points of goblins to paint"

"I am Ogre too but I dont have much expierence with them so i cant really give good advice"

Right now, I am feeling the desperate need to find a 28mm grammarian…

You're a brave man to venture onto the wasteland of language that is the GW forums. If I had the power, I'd see to it that you receive a commendation for the effort. And if you experienced headache whilst there, then you deserve a Purple Heart.

""I'm even daunted by fielding them in Warband games, because you *still* need two boxes of the little knee-biters to get unit minimums…""

"Unless I'm mistaken, the standard box of 20 fulfills the minimum unit size requirement."

If fielding Gnoblars from the OK book, or assuming they are all Man-Biters (as you are), yes. If you differentiate them by the Gnoblar Army list from WD, then a single box has only two pigback riders, two slingers, etc. Under Warbands rules (from several recent WDs, but mysteriously vanished from the UK website recently), unit sizes are much smaller, but have to be at least three bodies if on 20x20 bases. Thus two boxes of Gnoblars to get your three slingers, etc…

@Farstar: I see, thanks for the clarification.

Well if that isn't a cheesy trick to try to sell a bunch more miniatures.

OTOH, if two of you want to build up gnoblar armies, you can buy 3 boxes between you and split one 50/50.

If you think that's bad, there's only one type of Gnoblar sprue and when bought separate from the box, costs $16.50. For some reason GW makes the customer pay more for individual sprues. I've calculated the price/single sprue vs. the lot in a box. The latter ends up being cheaper than the former.

The fact that I tend to convert my minis means that I'll be needing the whole box. I think Gnoblars aren't that popular, as occasionally I've seen shrinkwrapped boxes sell for slightly over $10(including shipping), though this could just be a purchasing phase among buyers.