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Tango0127 May 2013 11:39 a.m. PST

"Tomorrow marks the 30th anniversary of Return of the Jedi, the third and (for awhile) final chapter in the Star Wars saga. It also was, arguably, the weakest of the chapters until the 1999 release of Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. We'll put aside that abomination and focus instead on Jedi, a more elegant film for a more civilized age.

Everyone knows the plot of Return and all the big set pieces it contains (Jabba's palace! A new Death Star! Ewoks Ewoks Ewoks! OK, forget that last one.), but in celebration of a movie that defined so many childhoods, here are 30 things that you might not know about Return of the Jedi.

1. Most Star Wars fans know that the movie was filmed under the title Blue Harvest: Horror Beyond Imagination to avoid publicity, but it's less-known that the bogus title was a play on Dashiell Hammet's 1929 novel Red Harvest, which was said to be an influence for Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo, which was cited as an influence for Star Wars. See how it all comes together?

2. Despite the credits, Richard Marquand may not have directed all of the movie; George Lucas directed some footage, and Empire Strikes Back director Irvin Kershner once hinted that Marquand's assistant directed footage credited to Marquand, due to Marquand's poor relationship with the actors.

3. Speaking of connections to classic movies, Emperor Palpatine, making his first appearance in the flesh — he was just bits and bytes in that hologram in Empire, and was portrayed by a different actor — was at first named after a character in Taxi Driver, but his name was changed to avoid potential legal issues.

4. And speaking of Marquand, he wasn't the first choice for Jedi. Or the second, or even third. Stephen Spielberg, David Cronenberg and David Lynch were ahead of him in line. Just imagine, for a second, Cronenberg or, better, Lynch making a movie with Ewoks.

5. The Ewoks occasionally speak Tagalog, although most of their dialogue is loosely inspired by Kalmuck, a language spoken in Mongolia. One of the Ewok songs once was believed to be in Swedish — with the lyrics translating, wonderfully, as "It smells of cereal in here" — but that, sadly, was based upon people mishearing the gibberish the oversized rodents were singing.

6. The word "Ewok" is never actually said in Return of The Jedi, and neither were the names of individual Ewoks, although both appear in the end credits.

7. "Ewok" is derived from the Native American tribe the Miwok, indigenous to the Northern California redwood forests in which the Endor scenes were shot.

8. "Endor" comes from the Bible and is a village visited by King Saul before his final battle with the Philistines. Oddly enough, it also makes an appearance in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of The Rings, as the Elvish name for Middle-Earth.

9. Ewoks were a late addition to the Star Wars mythology. Their part in the story was to be played by the Wookiees, but by the time Lucas and partners sat down to write Return of The Jedi, they realized that, because Chewbacca could fly the Millennium Falcon, repair the ship and operate pretty much any weapon or machine in the known universe, they'd made the Wookiees too technologically advanced for the plot.

10. In what is either amazing planning or, more likely, complete coincidence, the one word C3PO says to the Ewoks is "Naboo," which was later revealed in The Phantom Menace to be the home world of Luke and Leia's mother — and Anakin Skywalker's wife — Queen Amidala.

11. The lyrics to the song the Ewoks perform at the end of the movie — the words everyone heard as "yub nub" — were written by none other than Joseph Williams, son of Star Wars composer John and lead singer with Toto. Someone, somewhere: Please make a mash-up of this song and Toto's "Africa" as soon as possible.

12. When scenes of post-victory celebrations around the galaxy were added to the 1997 Special Edition re-release, it was less a case of George Lucas tampering and more a case of fixing something that was missing from the original version of the movie. Lucas and co-writer Lawrence Kasdan had wanted to show Coruscant celebrating the end of the Empire originally but, unable to come up with a name for the city, dropped the idea entirely. It was only after Timothy Zahn came up with the name in his Heir to The Empire novel that the Imperial Capital had a name.

13. Both lightsabers used in the movie were re-purposed props from earlier movies. Darth Vader's lightsaber was a Luke Skywalker saber from The Empire Strikes Back because all of Vader's had mysteriously disappeared between movies. Luke's new saber was originally one of Obi-Wan Kenobi's from the original Star Wars movie.

14. Yoda was to sit this one out, but he was added after consultation with child psychologists made George Lucas decide he needed an independent character to confirm Darth Vader's claim that he is Luke Skywalker's father. Now you know why Yoda doesn't do much for the rest of the movie.."
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Personal logo Panzerfaust Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2013 11:44 a.m. PST

"after consultation with child psychologists made George Lucas decide he needed"….this line says it all.

tberry740327 May 2013 12:00 p.m. PST

Their part in the story was to be played by the Wookiees…

I always thought of the Ewoks as dwarf Wookies.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2013 12:12 p.m. PST

Some of this falls in the IDBI category, particularly the "Wookies were too technologically advanced" argument. After all, Chewbacca simply could have been the equivalent of a Squanto— a Wookie who had left the planet (kidnapping or whatever) and learned to live in a technological society while his native people remained in a more primitive state. I maintain that Lucas (or someone) thought, "Cute teddy bears!" and then argued that such creatures would be more readily seen as vulnerable and endearing than huge, super-strong walking carpets that tear people's arms out of their sockets when they lose.

emckinney27 May 2013 12:56 p.m. PST

If you read "The Secret History of Star Wars," which is based on scripts for Star Wars starting long before shooting, as well as extensive interviews, you'll see that Lucas had intended to have a battle on the heavily forested Wookie homeworld.

I'm not a huge Star Wars fanboy (read one Extended Universe novel decades ago), but "Secret History" is absolutely fascinating. The early scripts were terrible. "Luke Skykiller"? Really? Also, Lucas's ex-wife seems to have made some very important, and uncredited, contributions.

wolfgangbrooks27 May 2013 1:35 p.m. PST

"After all, Chewbacca simply could have been the equivalent of a Squanto"

Yeah, but then it would have to be exposited on. In general mass-media audiences aren't exactly known for following nuance.

Space Monkey27 May 2013 2:39 p.m. PST

Yojimbo was an influence for Star Wars? I've heard Hidden Fortress mentioned before but never Yojimbo (I'm not sure I see it).

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER27 May 2013 2:42 p.m. PST

Some interesting ideas. I remember seeing a Star Wars action figure in a Western Auto labeled Revenge of the Jedi. I didn't have money for it, and when I got back the following week, it was gone.

Augustus27 May 2013 3:48 p.m. PST

From what I have gleaned out of cursory research, it seems like Lucas' wife (Marcia, she also won the Oscar for Star Wars) pretty much saved Stars Wars and Indiana Jones (amongst others) in a number of ways. She was an excellent editor. I often wonder if they had not run aground, if RotJ might have turned out reminiscent of the early darker version people talk about.

Lucas on his own has never been a good idea..Prequels…I rest my case.

Return of the Jedi is the weakest (arguably) of the three films and Star Wars' filming production, from an emotional/interactive aspect was just out of gas. Amongst a number of infights, just prior to the release, Marcia/George were divorced (she edited portions of RotJ) and, from what I understand, Marcia's contributions to anything at Lucasfilm were expunged with extreme prejudice.

RotJ suffered from this as much as from Marquand. Lynch would have been a disaster in my opinion. Spielberg could have flown the thing single-handed despite the issues, but he wasn't interested I guess.

The 1997 Editing excuse is widely put out by fanboys and corporates. These were edited out (gee, I wonder who….) and Lucas tampered to put them back in this goofy way. The result is turning a decent "regional" ending into some sort of weird galactic-spanning celebration without much story support (Coruscant? What the? Rebellion who?) that lamely tried to tie up the films.

Interesting article. But its Mon Mothma, not Mon motha.

John the OFM27 May 2013 4:00 p.m. PST

There are those who think the Star Wars universe is coherent.
There are those who find WRG rules intelligible.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2013 5:31 p.m. PST

True dat.

CPBelt27 May 2013 5:35 p.m. PST

but he wasn't interested I guess.

He wasn't allowed to direct, though he wanted. Lucas resigned from the Director's Guild as a result of a dispute the Guild had with him involving ESB. IIRC it was the lack of credits at the start of the film that got Lucas in hot water. So Lucas quit the Guild. This meant that he could not hire a Guild director for RotJ. Spielberg, who really wanted to direct and work on the film, was a member of the Guild, so he could not do it. He wasn't about to quit the guild just to do a SW film!

So Lucas, cutting off his nose to spite his face (a pattern he seems to be good at), screwed himself out of the best directing talent out there. Enter Marquand (spelling?), a second rate foreign director.

All really sad. Jedi was doomed. This is all well documented.

BTW I've heard from someone who worked with Lucas directly that Lucas has a habit of revising his own history daily. The "truth" is always what George says it to be that day, not the day before. He can also be a control freak. A difficult man to work with from all accounts.

I'm glad he's gone from SW! Downside is that we now get JJ Abrams. :-(

emckinney27 May 2013 6:28 p.m. PST

"BTW I've heard from someone who worked with Lucas directly that Lucas has a habit of revising his own history daily. The "truth" is always what George says it to be that day, not the day before. He can also be a control freak. A difficult man to work with from all accounts."

"BTW I've heard from someone who worked with Jobs directly that Jobs has a habit of revising his own history daily. The "truth" is always what Steve says it to be that day, not the day before. He can also be a control freak. A difficult man to work with from all accounts."

(On a more serious note, works like "Secret History" are an excellent corrective. It in particular works from contemporary documents to determine what ideas existed when.)

flooglestreet27 May 2013 7:30 p.m. PST

The Star Wars films are pretty good until Chewbacca, a sophisticated and canny smuggler suddenly decides he has to have a hunk of raw meat that is obviously bait for a snare. The whole franchise sucks swamp water from that point to the closing credits on Revenge of the Sith. Some of the cartoons are fun.

Fish28 May 2013 1:50 a.m. PST

emckinney, I'd be inclined to say that even better source is "Making of Star Wars: Definitive Story Behind Original Film" which came out a year before. I kinda suspect that "Secret History" includes plenty of material copied from "Making of" which was published a year earlier.


In 70's Lucas did a list of cool names for people and places etc and plenty of them were used in subsequent movies. Probably this amounts to C3PO and "Naboo".

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP28 May 2013 12:00 p.m. PST

The whole franchise sucks swamp water from that point to the closing credits on Revenge of the Sith.

Nope. It sucks from the moment when a largely blind Han Solo says "Bobba Fett? Where?" and then accidentally bumps the "most fearsome bounty hunter in the galaxy" into a giant, immobile stomach. Which then burps. A cinema death so lame that it had to be retconned away by fans and comicbook writers so that the villain was able to claw his way out (which is just an admission as to how stupid and dramatically disappointing the scene was). From then on, the films piled suckage on top of suckage to the state where if Lucas wrote anything more, the franchise would implode into a black hole of completely suckery and destroy the galaxy.
So he sold it to Disney.
Which could only help.

CorpCommander28 May 2013 2:54 p.m. PST

ROFL, Parzival hits it on the head!

richarDISNEY29 May 2013 8:10 a.m. PST

Or, Parzival, The Fett wasn't the best at his job and was overrated.
Which is more likely, IMO.

I still think Sith was the best of the 6 flicks.
beer

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