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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2013 12:04 p.m. PST

Agree in general.
Specially point 4.

"It's hard to imagine now, but the original Star Wars movie was more than just a star-spanning, kid-pleasing action flick. It was also a rule-breaking, expectation-thwarting one-film rebel alliance.

For instance, remember how the movie starts with a blare of trumpets and the title, followed the text crawl, followed by the actual movie? Notice how there aren't three minutes of "Doopdy Doo Pictures and Skippity-Skip Entertainment Present … A Furfty Fur/Yonker Boo Production … A Glarpton Spitcake Film … Elwee Groodicle … Robbles Pancake … Spankster Carmont … and Bliss Underham … Casting by Arhop Maser, C.S.A … Music by Hambone Jury … Cheese Table Relocation by Hollywood Dairy Movement L.L.C." and so forth? Lucas was fined $250,000 USD for that. Specifically, he was fined by the Director's Guild for not having an opening director credit. That's right, he was fined for not giving himself credit before the film even starts.

Or take the fact that there are two main characters who not only don't speak English, but whose growlings and bleepings aren't even translated into subtitles.

Oh, and one more thing. It's science fiction. These days you can't swing a large popcorn without hitting a science-fiction blockbuster right in the hyperdrive, but at the time there hadn't been a really successful science fiction movie in nearly a decade. Just by setting his film in a galaxy far, far away — not to mention long, long ago — Lucas was defying the conventional movie-making wisdom of the time.

The point is that while Star Wars is the spaceship that launched a thousand clichés, it achieved its success by being something profoundly original. So here's my unsolicited advice to Abrams, and moreover to the hundreds of entertainment bureaucrats who are going to want to have their meddling incorporated into the upcoming Star Wars VII: Action of the Noun: Don't give into the Dark Side. Don't incorporate the following clichés that have increasingly infested sequels for the past 35 years…"
Full article here.
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Amicalement
Armand

Caesar20 Feb 2013 12:24 p.m. PST

"The best part about wresting Star Wars away from George Lucas is that now George Lucas won't be writing any more Star Wars movies."

Dave Jackson20 Feb 2013 12:29 p.m. PST

Hear, hear….

elsyrsyn20 Feb 2013 12:34 p.m. PST

Amen. I wish they could go back and rewrite and remake episodes 1-3 now.

Doug

Delthos20 Feb 2013 12:36 p.m. PST

The really funny thing about all of STar Wars is that Lucas made it to buck the Hollywood corporate system, but it is now a part of it just like everything.

Maddaz11120 Feb 2013 2:42 p.m. PST

midichlorian count ….

more Sith ?

sorry, why try and revisit a universe that you did pretty well with in parts 4,5 and 6.. that you messed up with parts 1-3, and will now mess up again with parts 7 – 275?

Set it with the kids / grandkids of the main characters against a new world spanning enemy – there must be other groups in the universe who want to have a bite of the empire

billthecat20 Feb 2013 4:26 p.m. PST

I'll go out on a limb and say we don't need a new StarWars at all… Most folk of good taste certainly don't want one… LET IT DIE AND CREATE SOMETHING NEW AND INTERESTING… Yeah, that'll happen… rant over.

CorSecEng20 Feb 2013 4:44 p.m. PST

It did happen but they canceled it after 13 episodes

Dances With Words Fezian20 Feb 2013 5:25 p.m. PST

I loved firefly…and the Serenity movie!

I also love/ed star wars, even the two TV EWOK movies…..
but not sure how the 'Haus of Maus' will do with it….

Only time will tell as I sorta liked the Star Trek 'reboot' that JJ did…..SO FAR…..(and all my beloved TOS, etc characters are STILL 'safe' in an alternate universe!)

Oh, that's right…it's ALL 'make-believe'….so it doesn't matter!

richarDISNEY20 Feb 2013 6:42 p.m. PST

#1 – JJ Assbrams?
#2 – See #1
#3 – See #1
#4 – See #1
#5 – See #1
beer

Toshach20 Feb 2013 8:03 p.m. PST

The good thing is that we no longer have Lucas' angst over his relationship with his father to be concerned with. So we might actually get back to some good, clean Episode IV type Sci Fi.

Justin Penwith20 Feb 2013 11:50 p.m. PST

Bringing back the original actors for Luke, Leia, and Han would be like having Mickey Rourke re-shooting 9 1/2 Weeks when he's 80.

We certainly don't the awful actor (He Who Must Not Be Named) who RUINED the character of Darth Vader coming back to visit his children and grand-children as a spirit being of the Force.

Please, no return of Jar-Jar or his offspring.

Don't let Lucas pick any of the actors, especially the child actors. He's done rather poorly in the past.

and for Heaven's sake, stay off Tatooine. We have seen more than enough of that rock on the far side of the galaxy.

Gunner Dunbar21 Feb 2013 5:09 a.m. PST

No characters designed for kids, I want dark and gritty, lots of action with a good group of swashbuckling heros, and a real evil badass for the anti hero, no droid troopers doing silly cute voices as they are detroyed, its just stupid. Throw in a hot scantily clad heroin and we have a hit. Sounds a lot like episode 4.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 6:50 a.m. PST

Don't forget lots of great songs. I hope Elton John is still around for the next one.

I fear we will get kids, Jar-Jar clones, and far more of the power of "The Schwartz".


Vince

CorSecEng21 Feb 2013 8:21 a.m. PST

I know everyone is jaded by the prequels but lets not forget its in the hands of the same people who are firing on all cylinders with the marvel movies.

They know the demographic. Unlike Lucas. Lucas wanted to make the movies for kids. I think Disney understands how to make a serious action filled movie that will excite parents and thrill the children that they will take to it.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2013 12:12 p.m. PST

They need to set any new films in the KOTOR time frame.

CorSecEng21 Feb 2013 12:47 p.m. PST

I'd rather have them all over the place. Some KOTOR stuff. I'd love to see the Bane story line get it's own movie. He invented the rule of two and slaughter all the jedi/sith in the process.

I think you could cram the Yuuzhan Vong War into 3 movies. About the right time period for the ages of Luke, Leia, and Han. It centers around the kids more. Lots of new jedi to show off and it sets up the death of chewie.

Thrawn would be great but everyone is too old. Post Yuuzhan Vong is messy with all the crap that happens and the death of the new republic.

I'd definitely rather see the deaths of the main characters in movie format then in a book.

DS615121 Feb 2013 8:44 p.m. PST

No Jedi, Sith, or lightsaber at all would be superb.
It's a whole galaxy of people and stories, there is no need to focus on a handful of cult members.

A rebel, or even imperial, Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan would be amazing.

Heck, you could tell an excellent story just following the crew of a single starship. One of the fleeing Hoth transports even.

Don't Confine the galaxy to just psychos with ancient weapons and hokey religions.

Stern Rake Studio22 Feb 2013 3:57 a.m. PST

Ditto what Ceasar and Toshach said.

Ted

gisbygeo22 Feb 2013 10:14 a.m. PST

Isn't it also the same people that made 'John Carter?'

retzlaffmd22 Feb 2013 1:01 p.m. PST

Outside of people who frequent sites like this, how well was something like JCM really going to do at the box office? I thought it was well done, even with the changes made to the original storyline, and would have bought lots of the toys had they made martian flyers in any useful scale(or at all!). Buena Vista has a decent rep for action films, and let's face it, you can't do more damage to the SW universe than ol' Georgie did by pandering to the kiddies with ep1… Just NO YUUZANG VONG!!!!

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