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Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2012 5:04 p.m. PST

How come this never took off in the US? Didn't it win Best new Ruleset at Salute a few years back?

Did Sharpe Practice overshadow it? Wha' happen'?

Florida Tory29 May 2012 5:58 p.m. PST

I wasn't aware it never took off. I play it frequently and love the elegant simplicity of its mechanics.

Rick

skinkmasterreturns29 May 2012 6:05 p.m. PST

We play it here,too,in 1/72. I still am contemplating Sash and Saber 40mm figures,because to me,the game cries out for it,much more than 20s or even 28mm.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2012 6:29 p.m. PST

We play it on Napoleonic nights alongside Age of Glory. I've been building squads of different nationalaties for it. lotta fun thumbs up

IronMarshal29 May 2012 6:31 p.m. PST

I don't know why, but as for competing with Sharp Practice, Sharp is large skirmish and Song is smaller scale skirmish, so they are a little different in that way. Come to think of it, I think Naps fans like more unit tactics that single skirmish stuff, and Sharp Practice has that. But I could be wrong.

Jeff Caruso29 May 2012 7:32 p.m. PST

IMO, Song of Drums and Shakos ranks right there beside ATZ for the most fun game system I've played in many years of gaming. Perfect? No but really fun.

Jeff

Fredloan29 May 2012 8:12 p.m. PST

IS Song of Drums and Shako more for lets say brigade size skirmishes?

Ganesha Games Sponsoring Member of TMP29 May 2012 11:43 p.m. PST

Flashman,
depends on what you mean by taking off. we do not have store distribution and we're based in Italy so our presence at conventions etc is pretty limited. But the game sells well and there are batreps on the internet. So I'd say that for an indie game, it is quite successful. BTW it won an Origins award for best historical miniatures rules, I'm not aware of any Salute awards.

IronMarshal
some players have tweaked our 6165 ACW company level rules to play naps with 40-80 figures per side, but at the moment we have no official product competing in the same slot as SP.

Fredloan
it is for small squad (8-15 men) games. But we published Drums and Shakos Large Battles which is for divisional size play an has gotten some rave reviews from players and game designers.

Based on the sales and batreps, I'd say SDS is pretty popular (our second best selling title and you know you can't beat fantasy sales wise).

Thanks for the nice comments!
Andrea

IronMarshal30 May 2012 2:43 a.m. PST

Thanks Andrea,
I have SP and SDS. Both are great games. I just wasn't sure that SDS sized small skirmish would be as appealing to US Naps Gronards. I like it, but Naps players are a really funny sort.
I had forgotten about SDS Large Battles. I should probably pick those up soon too.

Fredloan30 May 2012 7:41 a.m. PST

Andrea,

A little confused here. Each player controls how many units? I play 15/18mm scale. Looks like you said each player would control a unit of 8-15 figures?

Ed von HesseFedora30 May 2012 8:00 a.m. PST

Fredloan,

Real skirmish. 8-15 figures at 1 figure=1 man.

Ed

Big Ian30 May 2012 12:03 p.m. PST

Not played SP, but i have SDS, MDS, SDSLB & 61-65 and i can say they are all great rules and i am typically a fantasy / sci-fi gamer and the above rules have interested me in 'historical' gaming and i am slowly getting projects moving using these rules.
SDS typically uses up to 10 figures per side in our games and can be played from 20mins to 40 mins depending if the dice god is on myside or not ;-)
The rules are comprehensive and fun to play.

Fredloan30 May 2012 1:14 p.m. PST

Hmm, SDS for real skirmish of 8-15 figures does not sound like something most Nappy gamers would be interested in. I guess to each their own.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2012 8:07 p.m. PST

Think of Sharpe and his company searching a village for French gold guarded by a squadron of Dragoons.

Some French Hussars, on foot, escaping from Moscow being pursued into a woods by Cossacks.

British marines and sailors raiding a French town to rescue an Irishman captured as a spy.

British prisoners of war being marched to the fort by a Legere company and Spanish guerrillas trying to rescue them.

I am a Nappy gamer and these are fun scenarios.

A Twiningham31 May 2012 4:36 a.m. PST

I agree with Bob. As fun as it is to try to game all of Wagram or Borodino, it can also be a real blast trying to secure a wagon load of fodder while while avoiding cossack patrols.

Plus it lets me indulge my urge to paint various units without having to commit to an entire army.

Fredloan31 May 2012 8:58 a.m. PST

I see your point. I guess since I am just getting back into gaming and no one in this area plays small skirmish, I have not had any exposure. Once totally involved I can see that the variance can be a nice change of pace.

hunter4a03 Jul 2012 4:46 p.m. PST

Love playing both SDS and DSLB. Our Nappy Grognards that have played it really enjoyed the battles. We started an SDS campaign and will start phase II of the Spanish Ulcer soon. In between that we have been seeing DSLB battles in both 15 and 25 mm.

Again, nice job Andrea! I ordered and received the soft cover color version that is nicely done. The only bad thing was the expensive shipping to Denver. Would like to see a local print shop pick it up.

Dan

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