"What source for 1st Bull Run & inf weapons by regiment?" Topic

Says it all.

Thanks guys

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I don't know of any book written about this topic, not even a uniform study which would be so desired. I think someone missed the boat with the 150th anniversary! What other battle had such a variety of weapons and uniforms?!

Well said Fire Zouvre……I remember SPI had a broad brush approach in some of the ACW games they did.

but what a great book this would be.

Since individual companies in a given regiment may not necessarily been equipment or uniformed as every other company and not every company was documented in detail I don't believe this task is even possible.

EJNashIII, you're correct. But I'm still surprised this has not been attempted at all over the last 150 years. It's not impossible, but would be interesting as hell! I have been painting up regiments for the battle and have found many different uniformed companies, but that makes it interesting to me!

FWIW, the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th Maine Infantry went to Bull Run armed with converted M1816 Springfield muskets. The 5th Maine carried M1855 Springfield rifle-muskets.

Between Bull Run and December of 1861, the arms of the first 3 units were changed, the 2nd & 3rd receiving M1855/61 rifle muskets, and the 4th Maine Lorenz rifles.

All 4 regiments from Maine at Bull Run were wearing, according to period images, dark blue trousers, and either dress coats or sack coats. At least one pre-battle image of a member of Co. "K", 3rd Maine, shows him wearing a dress hat (Hardee hat) with all the trimmings, side turned up, etc. Whether the entire regiment was wearing these or not cannot be ascertained.

HOWEVER: Initial issue returns from 1861 show that ALL of these regiments were issued with forage caps, and it is likely that these were what was worn to the field.

Officers also had dark blue trousers and dress coats, and pre-battle images show a mix of hats and caps.

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Toss me an e-mail at berlichtingen at gmail dot com

if your just mainly looking for gaming info, ARMIES AT FIRST MANASAS for stars and bars is pretty good.

Gleened from several sources, and not quite up to date. This should at least give you a starting point:

UNION ARMY
Brigadier General Irvin McDowell
1st Division – Brigadier General Daniel Tyler
1st Brigade – Colonel E. D. Keyes
2nd Maine
650 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
1st Connecticut
575 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Connecticut
625 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
3rd Connecticut
600 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Brigade – Brigadier General R. C. Schenck
82nd New York "2nd New York Militia"
500 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
1st Ohio
523 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Ohio
547 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
Battery E (Carlisle), 2nd U.S. Artillery
4 x 14lb James Rifles and 2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
3rd Brigade – Colonel William T. Sherman
13th New York "Rochester Regiment"
758 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
69th New York "Meagher's Zouaves"
826 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
79th New York "Highlanders"
736 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Wisconsin
811 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
Battery E (Ayres), 3rd U.S. Artillery
4 x 10lb Parrott Rifles and 2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
4th Brigade – Colonel Israel Richardson
1st Massachusetts
621 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
12th New York
592 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Michigan
609 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Michigan
671 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
Battery G (Edwards), 1st U.S. Artillery
2 x 20lb Parrott Rifles and 1 x 30lb Parrott Rifle.
Battery M (Hunt), 2nd U.S. Artillery
4 x 10lb Parrott Rifles.
2nd Division – Colonel David Hunter
1st Brigade – Colonel A. Porter
8th New York Militia "Washington Grays" – 28 kepi/blanket roll
698 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
27th New York "Union Regiment" – 28 kepi/pack
710 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
84th New York "14th Brooklyn" – 24 zouave kepi
661 men armed with 1853 British Enfield Rifles.
Sykes' Battalion of U.S. Infantry 4 bases (2nd rate rifles) Average/Resolute/Inspirational Commander – 20 hardee/frock
427 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
Battalion of U.S. Marines 3 bases (2nd rate rifles) Raw/Resolute – 12 kepi/frock
324 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles. The men only had 3 days training prior to the battle.
Palmer's Battalion of U.S. Cavalry – 28 mounted/28 dismounted cavalry kepi
700 men armed with 150 Burnside Carbines and 550 Sharps Carbines.
Battery D (Griffin), 5th U.S. Artillery
4 x 10lb Parrott Rifles and 2 x 12lb Model 1841 Howitzers.
2nd Brigade – Colonel Ambrose Burnside
2nd New Hampshire – 24 kepi frock
619 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
1st Rhode Island – 28 kepi frock
682 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd Rhode Island – 28 kepi frock blanket roll
714 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
71st New York – 24 kepi
643 men armed with French Liege Muskets and 2 x 12lb Dahlgren Boat Howitzers.
2nd Rhode Island Artillery
6 x 14lb James Rifles.
3rd Division – Colonel Samuel Heintzelman
1st Brigade – Colonel W. B. Franlin
5th Massechusetts Militia
606 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
11th Massachusetts "Boston Volunteers"
629 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
1st Minnesota
874 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
Battery I (Ricketts), 1st U.S. Artillery
6 x 10lb Parrott Rifles.
2nd Brigade – Colonel Orlando B. Willcox
11th New York "Fire Zouaves"
723 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
38th New York "2nd Scott's Life Guards"
650 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
1st Michigan
472 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
4th Michigan
730 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
Battery D (Arnold), 2nd U.S. Artillery
2 x 14lb James Rifles and 2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
3rd Brigade – Colonel Oliver O. Howard
3rd Maine
708 men armed with French Liege Muskets.
4th Maine
731 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
5th Maine
649 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Vermont
688 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
4th Division – Brigadier General Theodore Runyon
1st Brigade – Colonel Johnson
1st New Jersey Militia
598 men armed with M1855 Harper Ferry Rifles.
2nd New Jersey Militia
627 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Militia
663 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
4th New Jersey Militia
726 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd Brigade – von Gilsa
1st New Jersey Volunteers
576 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
2nd New Jersey Volunteers
620 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
3rd New Jersey Volunteers
643 men armed with 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
41st New York "2nd Jager Regiment"
681 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
5th Division – Colonel Dixon Miles
1st Brigade – Colonel L. Blenker
8th New York
700 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
29th New York "Astor Rifles"
661 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
39th New York "Garibaldi Guard"
679 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
27th Pennsylvania
722 men armed with French Liege Muskets.
Battery A (Tidball), 1st U.S. Artillery
2 x 12lb Model 1841 Howitzers and 2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Brookwood's New York Artillery
6 x 10lb Parrott Rifles.
2nd Brigade – Colonel T. A. Davis
16th New York
617 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
18th New York
681 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
31st New York "Baxter's Light Guard"
681 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
32nd New York
657 men armed with 1839 Bavarian Muskets.
Battery G (Greene), 2nd U.S. Artillery
4 x 10lb Parrott Rifles.

ARMY OF THE SHENANDOAH
Brigadier General Joseph Eggleston Johnston
Jackson's Brigade – Colonel Thomas Jonathan Jackson
2nd Virginia
600 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th Virginia
556 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
5th Virginia
500 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
27th Virginia
490 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
33rd Virginia
460 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
Rockbridge Virginia Artillery (Pendleton)
3 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores and 1 x 12lb Model 1841 Howitzer.
Bartow's Brigade – Colonel Francis Stebbins Bartow
112, 177, 182, 183, 218, 269, 270-71, 279-80, 282, 294-97, 321, 324, 339, 380
7th Georgia
529 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
8th Georgia
547 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
9th Georgia (not present)
Duncan's Kentuky Battalion (not present)
Pope's Kentuky Battalion (not present)
Wise Virginia Artillery (Alburtis)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Bee's Brigade – Brigadier General Barnard Bee
4th Alabama
611 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
6th North Carolina
663 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Mississippi
631 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
11th Mississippi (only two companies present)
655 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
1st Tennessee (not present)
Staunton Virginia Artillery (Imboden)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Smith's/Elzey's Brigade – Brigadier General Kirby Smith/Colonel Arnold Elzey
1st Maryland Battalion "Zouave Guards"
600 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifle.
3rd Tennessee "Vaughn's Third"
590 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
10th Virginia "Warren's"
623 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
13th Virginia (not present)
Culpepper Virginia Artillery (Beckham/Groves)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
"Reserve Brigade" – Brigadier General T. H. Holmes
2nd Tennessee "Walker's Second"
643 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
1st Arkansas
621 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
Scott's Cavalry Company
Purcell Virginia Artillery (Walker)
6 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Unbrigaded
1st Virginia Cavalry "JEB Stuart's Black Horse"
300 men armed with Hall Carbines.
Thomas Virginia Artillery (Stanard)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.

ARMY OF THE POTOMAC
Brigadier General Pierre G. T. Beauregard
Bonham's Brigade – Brigadier General M. L. Bonham
11th North Carolina
805 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
2nd South Carolina "Palmento Guards"
733 men armed with US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
3rd South Carolina
787 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
7th South Carolina
775 men armed with US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
8th South Carolina
721 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
1st Richmond Virginia Howitzers (Shields)
4 x 12lb Model 1841 Howitzers.
Alexandria Virginia Artillery (Kemper)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Ewell's Brigade – Brigadier General Richard S. Ewell
5th Alabama
762 men armed with Tyler Texas Rifles.
6th Alabama
746 men armed with US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
6th Louisiana
779 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
1st Company (Rosser), Washington Louisiana Artillery
4 x 12lb Model 1841 Howitzers.
Jones' Brigade – Brigadier General D. R. Jones
17th Mississippi "Featherston's"
630 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
18th Mississippi "Burt's"
685 men armed with US M1822 Muskets.
5th South Carolina
675 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
2nd Company (Miller), Washington Louisiana Artillery
2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Longstreet's Brigade – Brigadier General James Longstreet
5th North Carolina
202 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
1st Virginia
270 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
11th Virginia "Southern Guard"
186 men armed with US M1855 Harpers Ferry Rifles.
17th Virginia "Alexandria Rifles"
200 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
3rd Company (Garnett), Washington Louisiana Artillery
2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Cocke's Brigade – Colonel George Cocke
8th Virginia
425 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
18th Virginia
619 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
19th Virginia
606 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
28th Virginia
617 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
49th Virginia
210 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
Latham's section, Lynchburg Virginia Artillery
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Early's Brigade – Colonel Jubal A. Early
13th Mississippi "Barksdale's"
812 men armed with 1854 Austrian Lorenz Rifles.
7th Louisiana
770 men armed with US M1842 Muskets.
7th Virginia
400 men armed with 1843 Belgian Muskets.
24th Virginia
451 men armed with US M1816 Flintlock Muskets.
4th Company (Squires), Washington Louisiana Artillery
5 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Evans' Brigade – Colonel Nathan G. "Shanks" Evans
4th South Carolina
716 men armed with US M1842 Palmetto Rifles.
1st Louisiana Special Battalion "Wheat's Tigers"
525 men armed with US M1841 Mississippi Rifles.
Davidson's section, Lynchburg Virginia Artillery
2 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.
Unbrigaded
8th Louisiana
550 men armed with Prussian 1834 Muskets.
Hampton's South Carolina Legion
596 men armed with French Liege Muskets.
30th Virginia Cavalry
665 men armed with 200 Starr Carbines, 245 Sharps Carbines and 220 Smith Carbines.
Harrison's Virginia Cavalry Battalion
209 men armed with Sharps Carbines.
Terry's Texas Rangers
190 men armed with Starr Carbines.
Loudoun Virginia Artillery (Rogers)
4 x 6lb Model 1841 Smoothbores.

Brilliant! Thank you!

That information regarding the 3rd, 4th, & 5th Maine is incorrect. Please see my post above regarding them.

As to the 2nd Maine, being armed with "M1822 muskets", the M1822 is a phantom weapon, as no such arm was actually produced, nor noted by the US Army. It was a variant of the M1816, and the nomenclature comes from them being marked on the lockplate with the date "1822". To all intents and purposes, however, the weapon, like other phantoms such as the M1835, are simply M1816's with minor variations to finish or shape. The next actual variant, after the M1816 is the M1842.

More here, for those interested:

vet5.tripod.com/musket.html

Well said CATenWolde.

Brilliant info this is what TMP is about…..
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WoW Berlichtingen how long did it take to type that lot?? derserve a drink in the lounge for that post!!

This is amazing and, has been said above, this is an example of TMP at its best. I have been struggling to put together and understand a Bull Run Orbat. The best source I had found hitherto was from Empire / Talon Soft's Battleground Bull Run. This agrees with Berlichtingen's list to a satisfying and reassuring extent, albeit unit sizes are to the nearest 25. It is much much nicer to have the more exact figures Bertlictingen has provided. I note that Berlictingen suggests a larger number of smooth bore-armed units. This feels right. The big discrepancy is Longstreet. Berlictingen's list has the units much smaller. Can anyone shed any light on this?