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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jul 2010 10:10 a.m. PST

What sets of rules for the Franco-Prussian War are currently popular?

Jovian106 Jul 2010 10:11 a.m. PST

They Died for Glory was a set we used. I don't know what the latest and greatest is currently. They Died For Glory worked well for what they were and they did emphasize the relatively distinct differences between the two antagoists.

nickinsomerset06 Jul 2010 10:40 a.m. PST

A second vote for TDfG, we have played a few large games in 28mm. Currently looking at 1870 for 6mm games,

Tally Ho!

Martin Rapier06 Jul 2010 10:51 a.m. PST

'To the Last Gaiter Button' are interesting, Square Bashing for the FPW and include a rather neat campaign.

I wrote my own rules, but I would, wouldn't I:)

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2010 10:55 a.m. PST

Larry Brom's Chassepot and Needlegun (from sergeants3.com ) are used by the Jackson Gamers. They make for a medium sized 28mm game with a corps on each side. Maneuver units are infantry battalions of 18 (French) or 24 (German) figures, cavalry regiments of 24 figures, and artillery batteries of 3 guns and 6 gunner figures. Commanders are required for the regiment, brigade, division, and corps.

You can see some battle reports here:

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They are also usable for 15mm since Larry included a set of scaled rulers. We played several games using a group member's 15mm armies:

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Jim

lkmjbc306 Jul 2010 11:17 a.m. PST

Volley & Bayonet….

You can refight entire battles…
We've done…

Spicheren
Loigny
Werth

Plus some pickup games…

Joe Collins

alincoln198106 Jul 2010 11:38 a.m. PST

We use the excellent and free 'Fire & Furia Francesa' rules here – wfgamers.org.uk

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jul 2010 11:44 a.m. PST

Some good sets mentioned. A lot depends on what level you want to play at. VnB is good for fighting multiple Corps. For a Corps per side I like Field of Battle. A new set allowing you to fight a few corps per side is being playtested for Field of Battle.

Thanks,

John

JCBJCB06 Jul 2010 12:09 p.m. PST

Another vote for Field of Battle.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2010 12:19 p.m. PST

1870 is a very nice set.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian06 Jul 2010 12:53 p.m. PST

We used a home grown variant of Fire and Fury.

nickinsomerset06 Jul 2010 1:03 p.m. PST

As a thought, on a 12 x 6 table we managed 3 1/2 Prussian/Bavarian Corps vs a couple of French Corps on a 12 x 6 table, the scenareo made sure it was not just a case of loads of blokes in Blue advancing forwards to attack slightly less blokes in Blue, but in the end we had a good result:

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Also in the album are my 6mm chaps, I am looking at playing with these on a 12 x 6 table to the 1870 rules for grand multi Corps/Army level games,

Tally Ho!

coopman06 Jul 2010 2:21 p.m. PST

The answer depends a lot on what size unit the OP wants the maneuver elements to represent. Whether he wants to fight a tactical type of battle or a big battle in a reasonable amount of time is important too.

Blake Walker06 Jul 2010 5:09 p.m. PST

My vote is for Chassepot and Needlegun for 28-mm FPW. But I've also run a FPW mini-campaign using 15-mm figures for They Died For Glory. It just depends what organizational level type and figure scale you want to play.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jul 2010 6:31 p.m. PST

Great looking game Nick! How long did the game last?

Thanks,

John

nickinsomerset06 Jul 2010 10:19 p.m. PST

John, that was a 2 day game, started with Cavalry Recce from both sides, and following some large, un FPW like! Cavalry scraps the hordes of Blue appeared!

Tally Ho!

CooperSteveOnTheLaptop07 Jul 2010 1:44 a.m. PST

Ever Victorious Armies

advocate07 Jul 2010 1:56 a.m. PST

following some large, un FPW like! Cavalry scraps

Wasn't there a very large cavalry action towards the end of the battle at Mars-la-tour (as well as the more famous death ride)?

Oh, and I'm for 'To the last gaiter button'

ezza12307 Jul 2010 2:06 a.m. PST

We use 'Fire & Furia Francesa' rules too. One of our group wrote out a playsheet similar to the original Fire & Fury one.

Easy to pick up even if you haven't played Fire & Fury before. The link provided by alincoln also contains a few Franco-Prussians scenarios to try.

Ezza

Repiqueone07 Jul 2010 10:08 a.m. PST

Zouave-see : repiquerules.com

Reviews: link

See also Vae Victis #93 page 56-7 for a full color illustrated review. There is an excerpt at: link

Very active forum at: link

At Historicon on Saturday, July,10th, Dr Tim Couper and Peter Anderson will be hosting an American Civil War battle using Repique/Zouave at 10 AM that morning.

Red358407 Jul 2010 10:10 a.m. PST

I have assorted sets…THey Died for Glory, Polemos FPW, To the Last Gaiter Button and Black Powder.

TtLGB [as it shall now be known] is indeed quite a neat combination of campaign game and a rather Peter Pig-ish tabletop game. Not sure how practical it would be to combine the 2 in practice but a very nice set and lots of ideas in there.

I'm not entirely convinced by Polemos and haven't actually played TDfG [as they shall now be known] but of them all I'd recommend Black Powder for a good straightfowrward game that you can ammend happily to your hearts content [I know you can do that with the others too but BP does seem to actively encourage this].

Last Hussar posted some interesting ideas for FPW scenarios on his blog which I've taken the liberty of linking to…

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Very useful and interesting.

Namseer19 Mar 2013 10:08 p.m. PST

Does anyone know were to get they died for glory rule set?

Blake Walker20 Mar 2013 2:45 a.m. PST

Hi, I have a new copy of They Died for Glory for sale for $10.00 USD including shipping in CONUS. If interested, PM or email me at blakewoodwalker(at)yahoo(dot)com

Thanks,
Blake

Namseer20 Mar 2013 5:48 a.m. PST

Mr Walker how would i go about paying for it?

Old Contemptibles20 Mar 2013 10:15 a.m. PST

Another vote for TDFG. Use them a lot, our club is very happy with them.

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