"Twilight: 2000 The Last Battle" Topic

I loved playing Twilight:2000 the RPG back when it came out. A modern (back in the 80s) military post apocalyptic game RPG. We played the heck out of it back in high school. Even tried to accumulate minis, which back at the time wasn't much avaialable in the 80s. Grenadier had their own licensed 20mm Twilight 2000 minis, and then got some Rocos and even picked up some 1/72nd stuff that was gradually coming out. Getting an HO scale T-72 was the highlight of it.

Then came The Last Battle. A boxed stand alone board game set in the TW2K universe that could be used to run large scale battles for the RPG. If you played the RPG, it got pretty detailed over the damage tracks for vehicles and such.

Anyways, a friend of mine and I, who were collection all these models at the time, started to convert these rules to miniatures rules but then we graduated from High School, he joined the Army to become a Ranger and I went on to college to become and engineer. We never completed the project and lost touch with each other too. Today I can't even find my copy of The Last Battle and I don't even see it show up for sale anywhere. Come to think of it, I don't even think I played with my copy or even punched out the markers. I think I loaned it to my Ranger buddy before we went our seperate ways.

So has anyone actually played this? Is it worth getting again? RPGNow is selling a PDF for $10 USD (and the whole 1st edition bundle for $40!). Does it have potential to convert to a miniatures game?

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You can sometimes find a copy on e-bay at times. I would also try Board Game geek. There are a number for trade but you may be able to get someone to sell their copy. I havent played it but I would think it could be converted for miniatures

Well there is a new twilight 2013 from 93 game studios maybe they have plans for new one should check their forum see what they know

Yes, it can be converted to miniatures. It's basically GDW's First Battle game system (Team Yankee, Battlefield Europe, Sands of War, etc) that has some extra bells and whistles attached to give more detail. Convert hexes to inches (maybe two hexes = 1"?) and off you go.

It has a very simple system that mostly compares attack values against defense values and you roll on a CRT to see how you do.

Not a bad system, but there are better games out there to use for Twilight 2000.

Well I figured give it a go. I have most of the books and noticed a few I don't have in my inventory. TW2K has always been a good read, and it's bringing backs some good old memories.

I recently bought the new Twilight 2000 rules. Neat stuff! When I was in the Army in the mid 80's,a guy in my platoon got heavily into T2000. He bought all the expansions,but don't recall him playing much.
I had the vehicle and weapon books. Was pretty neat reading how current Army Divisions were damn near wiped out!

Bob C.

In Highschool, we played the heck outta that game…

The GDW in-house magazine Challenge had an rule set published in issue #25. It was basically the same rules they had for the "Pirates of the Vistula/Ruins of Warsaw" adventures.

I still have my 1st and 2nd editions. They are well worn and with the tie in to Dark Conspiracy and the Merc supplement it was in heavy use.

Well I bought TW2000 from Wargames Vault for $1 USD as a blast from the past and picked up some of the 'Polish' supplements with the intention of playing them out as 15mm skirmishes and 3mm big battles.

Cheers
Mark

Heh,
Have the stuff to do it in 20mm (gotta paint it) and 6mm (the conventional phase). Yeah, Twilight 2000 was a very big influence for me gaming wise. Now if I can find a source for some of the Dark Future figures cheap…

M1Fanboy, you might want to look at Elheim and Stan Johansen miniatures for some modern and post apocalyptic minis in 20mm scale.

Way ahead of you on those, got supplies of both, CK. This pack had some neat civilian survivors.

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A group of mates and I used to play T2K when I was at high school. So when RPGNow started offering the PDFs, it really was a "blast from the past" for me. I've now got a whole lot of the modules, rules etc (including the Last Battle) from these guys.

I don't role-play any more (haven't for 20+ years), but do play moderns at the battalion / brigade / divisional level using 3mm minis and the Cold War Commander, Fistful of TOWs 2, or Modern Spearhead rules (CWC currently preferred). I've been on the hunt for a good campaign setting, and this stuff looks like it could be my answer.

Like any good RPG, the background of T2K is very rich and detailed. My plan is to use it for a range of moderns gaming in various scales (I also have 6mm and 20mm modern stuff), including some large scale clashes (3mm). The various T2K supplements outline some of the surviving units: either remaining as regular forces, set up as militia forces of 'free cities' or gone rogue as the forces of warlord-style petty fiefdoms etc. Some of these forces are quite large – predominantly infantry based, but some have Battalion(+) size mechanised vehicle formations remaining.

I see the setting as a good alternate history campaign setting. A kind of post-apocalyptic, European-based, version of the types of fun you can have with warlord clashes like people have in dark ages gaming, 18th century 'Imagi-nations' or the smaller scale AK47-style African warlord gaming. But this would be more along the lines of conventional 'moderns' with the latest kit (in the '80s anyway) and clashes ranging from squad (skirmish) up to Brigade level actions. So I see it having a lot of scope for wargames.

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Still roleplaying Twilight 2000 at our club. I GM the games.

And yes it can easily be converted into a miniatures game. Even a tank heavy one, if your careful with what your doing.

Given the troops being done by the likes of Eureka, it would make a great 28mm project for a squad level fun.

I have played most of the GDW games,, from Dark Conspiracy to Twilight 2000. I even have my first copy of Dark Conspiracy and recently picked up the T2000 box set off ebay cheaply.

Just because something is new, does not make it better. T2000 is old, but still a hell of a lot of fun and now you can get them in pdf, its cheap too!