| Rune 3 | 01 Dec 2009 2:48 a.m. PST |
Does anyone have an idea what could be on the reverse side of the flag? picture |
IGWARG1   | 01 Dec 2009 9:07 a.m. PST |
? Picture shows the reverse side of the flag. It's obviously an improvised flag, so anything goes. |
| timurilank | 01 Dec 2009 4:29 p.m. PST |
Indeed, both sides are represented here. The indentation without fringe wraps around a staff with "Rosa Luxemburg" on the left and the poetic text on the right. Don't worry, we all went through exactly the same problem of flag nomenclature. Cheers,
Robert |
| Mark Plant | 01 Dec 2009 7:29 p.m. PST |
Rune 3: there was absolutely no pattern to Soviet flags of the period, so there is no way of determining what it actually had on the reverse. It was fairly standard for units to have their designation on the flag somewhere though, which is presumably why the designers put the name "Rosa Luxemburg" on it. I think the logo on the reverse is one I drew up a few years ago. It's fairly generic, if a fairly late concept (early ones tended to have hammer and plough). |
| Rune 3 | 02 Dec 2009 12:33 a.m. PST |
Hi Mark
I did swipe the logo from you when I designed the flag, but I was hoping that someone had some information about the reverse side. I also plan to make a flag for "The Communist" so if anyone can help out there as well it would be appreciated. |
| Red3584 | 02 Dec 2009 2:46 a.m. PST |
"My other train is a Porsche"…? |
| ScottS | 02 Dec 2009 11:50 p.m. PST |
"Honk if you love Socialism?" |
| sergeis | 07 Dec 2009 4:22 p.m. PST |
It is indeed both sides of the flag- averse and reverse. Such flags were common use and nonstandard, all hand made- painted or embroidered. I have seen both kinds in GIM.
I do not know the provenance- so not sure on historical accuracy. I did try to provide closest translation I could.
If it is for the paint job it is very good- but if used for historical research or as an illustration somewhere I would refrain from using it- certainly due to multiple orthographical mistakes. If one needs some historical flags- there quite a few provided on same site- B&W photos from Leninka library… |
| sergeis | 07 Dec 2009 4:32 p.m. PST |
link
Check out No 385- sleeve insignia for Armored train No 10- Rosa Luxembourg- Red International Army of Comrade Trotsky |
| sergeis | 07 Dec 2009 4:51 p.m. PST |
wio.ru/rr/ww1kras.htm 4th down picture is of the Rosa Luxembourg armored train. I would speculate here that averse of the flag had very similar writing- possibly with either red star like on the sleeve badge or rising sun as per Mr Plant. |
| Swampster | 09 Dec 2009 1:26 p.m. PST |
I think some of you are missing that Rune's link is to his own version of the flag! BTW, I think there is a typo in your cyrillic – you have an 'H' instead of 'M' in Luxembourg :) |
| sergeis | 09 Dec 2009 2:58 p.m. PST |
The pic is from a site by some Swedish guy- do not have a link handy… There are multiple typos on that flag- partly due to incorrect transfer from Russian italic to block letters. I thought I sent him years ago the correct writing- oh well…
The reverse of the flag is a "recreation" of original B&W photo, however inaccurate. |
| Rune 3 | 04 Jan 2010 10:34 a.m. PST |
sergeis, how rude. To call a Dane a Swede is like calling an Englishman French or a Russian German. As for the typos. they are all due to the sloppy handwriting you sent for Rosa Luxemburg. The text for the Communist is clear and crisp in comparison. See here Rosa Luxemburg
picture The Communist
picture As for the flag it's the obverse side which is based on a b/w picture the reverse side is generic |
| sergeis | 05 Jan 2010 6:03 p.m. PST |
Haha, entirely my fault! :-)
Rosa Luxembourg must have been in Italics- so I was trying to stay close to actual text lettering. Communist must have been in block letters…
Apologies!
You can call me German, I guess I deserve it! :-)
Can you PM me your site address here? |
| Rune 3 | 06 Jan 2010 12:37 a.m. PST |
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