"'Space: 1999' Remake?" Topic

Remember this?

If it was re-done, would it be more like "Space: 2099"?

Also, I would make it so that there are a couple of other (rival) stations on the moon, such as Russian and/or Chinese.

It would make things interesting, as each side would probably deal with aliens and resources differently. Some may try to plunder newfound worlds and/or ships, while others may try to keep things somewhat diplomatic and fair (hopefully not always the same side – I hate constant high-road stories).

Enough of what I would want . . .

If there was ever a "Space: 2099", what would YOU want to see done?

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In case you need a refresher on the original series . . .

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How about some scientific justification for when the Moon is propelled out of Earth's orbit, it's actually going fast enough to end up anywhere else?

"Ooh, another episode about the Ort cloud!"

LOL. Doesn't a Sci-Fi story get at least one unscientific "given"?

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My problem with the original Space: 1999 was that any explosion strong enough to hurl the Moon out of its orbit that quickly would have generated such enormous shock waves that any moon colony would have been obliterated. Not to mention the devastation that would have been wrought on Earth.

If the show were reimagined, I'd set it on a huge space station in Earth orbit. Some madman docks his experimental spaceship, then fires up his rockets and takes the whole station on a little trip. Might be a little too much like BSG, Voyager, Deep Space 9, and Babylon 5, though.

"Might be a little too much like BSG, Voyager, Deep Space 9, and Babylon 5, though."

Or "Lost in Space". :)

What if, instead of the Moon breaking away, the Earth was engulfed in a nuclear war (or deadly plague), making it uninhabitable?

Some missions from the Lunar colonies could involve returning (with appropriate protection gear, of course) to salvage items they might need.

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How about instead of the moon being a planet, it is actually an alien spacecraft disguised as the moon and sent to observe humans. Then, once the humans have established a colonly on the moon the aliens are all like, "Foolish humans, you have played right into our trap. We will now jump back to our own solar system and probe you at our leasure."

I think it could be gold!

Will they still wear tight polyster knit jump-suits (so you could tell which way they dressed) with bell bottoms and wide plastic dance belts that made their stomach's pooch over them? With zippers in stupid places that had tags sooo large it looked like they were wearing doll clothes? If so then sign me up!!

In all seriousness, however, I think the idea of a Space: 1999 remake would be interesting…as long as the Eagles remain the same.

I personally think something along the lines of finding a gigantic buried alien spacecraft on the moon and the Alphans accidentally triggering the interdimensional jump drive--think Robotech when the SDF-1 used the space fold drive in the Earth's atmosphere--and the moon is instantly teleported away.

I don't think having competing moon bases would be as interesting as putting all those competing interests on Alpha itself--think international space station. In that scenario there would be much more room for drama than seperate bases.

The real question, however, is could a moon really withstand the gravitational and tidal forces that would most likely be exherted on it in such a scenario. Probably not.

Link back to the weekend discussion of this topic…
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GypsyComet,

I don't know how I could have missed that one! Thanks.

It is even called "Space: 2099"!!!!

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Possibly get the surviving cast from the original series in pivotal,even if smaller,roles. Insert some inside riffs,and voila.

I'd rather see an updated version of UFO…..

Only if it's in 'Supermarionation.'

UFO might have a better set of legs on it… or maybe combine the two somehow… eg. the S.H.A.D.O. moonbase is sabotaged by aliens and somehow hurled into different universe/timestreams… ala 'Sliders'… and they must fight to get back to their proper universe before the alien onslaught overwhelms Earth.

Throw in Captain Scarlet and it's a deal…

I would give it a chance, as I do most SciFi shows.

The number one thing ANY show needs is a good story editor.

Some of the technology needs to be updated (EAGLES STAY!!), more Alphans, and some of the half-decent episodes can be recycled, and others condensed into just one episode.

It wouldn't be a bad thing if there were a few "human" episodes where the characters explore each other. Star Trek: TNG worked partially to the Great Bird's 11th Commandment: "Let the characters , let them K." Rival Moonbases might be a good idea too. In 2099, there should be at least two bigtime bases on the moon (American and Chinese) and a bunch of little corporate ones (We need a steady supply of redshirts ;) ).

OH! If they ONLY had a link….

Just to shine a little light on this discussion… Paramount and a few of the Networks were exploring JUST such a concept last year… I do not know what became of it, now what directions they explored, but the paper I read said that they did want the moon to somehow be involved in being removed from the earth's orbit…

Some of the "Expert" advise on how to get it out of orbit had similar theories about how this might be achieved to those posted (Alien spacecraft, etc).

The most popular idea came in the form of a similar method to the original show, but instead of an explosion, the nuclear waste began operating as a high powered ion drive that kept accelerating the moon… By the time that it reahes the edge of the solar system it is moving at around 1/3c. The pitch also included some ideas about continued contact with earth, which has been thrown into choas and ecological disaster by the moon leaving (Horrible tides followed by no tides, storms, earthquakes, etc). The earth sends all kinds of rescue ships to the moon, but the last few get stuck as the moon is now movinhg too fast for them to return to earth. So, you get a smaller staff than the entire population of the moonbase, but then throw in the crews of a few space-craft as well. This also gives you some larger long range space-craft to use once the moon gets someplace interesting…

The only problem was that people pointed out that once it got moving at speeds higher than 1/2c, it would be hard for them to interact with anything in the universe due to not having anything that could get back to the moonbase once it left… And, how many excuses are they going to be able to find for the moonbase to have an alien pull up along side? There was one suggestion that they eventually learn how to control the reaction from the nuclear waste so that they can accellerate and decellerate, but it was pointed out that if that was the case, why ddn't they turn around and come bach to the earth?.

Although I agree somewhat with the sentimate that the eagles stay… I would re-design them just a tad… After all, they were designed right after the Apollo program and still have that old NASA look to them…. I would try to get something that was similar enough to be recognizable, but that had been updated to include better propulsion and other capabilities (sort of like how they did with the Vipers in BSG)

Oh, and if they got moving fast enough, you could eventually have earth reach them again with FTL drives, due to time dialation causing more time to pass on the earth than had passed on the station…

They've explored the nuclear waste acting as a fission drive before. In fact, Issac Asimov did some calculations about the whole thing after the series premiered. I think they should combine some themes from some of the episodes they did and go with the rogue hyperdrive idea.

They should leave the Eagles alone, but the Hawks could stand a little retooling (landing gear and better weapons arrays). The Hawks would be found mothballed in that abandoned SHADO moonbase I spoke of in Space: 2099.

But the Mk9 Hawks were awesome in the episode Wargames. Although why were aliens useing them to attack the moonbase was a good question.

I don't remember did they ever answer this?
Were the aliens in Wargames the same ones that were attacking in UFO and harvesting people for spare parts and useing captured Hawks?

The 'earthships'…were some of the best DESIGNS in the series or scifi shows…the EAGLE…the 'SWIFT'…the "Ultra-probeship" from Dragon's Domain…vs the 'Meta-probe' from Pilot episode…and even the 'imaginary' SUPERSWIFT…

Some things only work in the 'original context' that they happened/were created in'…and you have to 'suspend disbelief'…(like Wizard of Oz)…

'Re-imagining' them…just doesnt' work…(most of the time)…Like 'Lost in Space' Movie…etc…

That's what RPG's are for…so we can take our eagle and swift and hawk and superswift models…and other ships and 'play it as it should/could have been'…

Then you could mix Shado etc…or whatever you want…

I think I'll go lay down awhile…I keep trying to figure out why they only had one door between the eagle cockpit and the cargo pod where folks sat…when there had to be at least two sets of double doors…

and when that chap re-docked the Eagle nosecone with probeship in 'Dragon's Domain'…he opened another door where he got rope, knife and hatchet'…before opening door to ultra-probe…when technically…the eagle hatch mated directly to ultra proble with no storage area/other hatches/storage…but why confuse things with little things like 'facts'…It was still good storytelling…

Sgt DWW